In Response to Your Comments...
"So do we count the "new bogey" as one of the twelve models or is it really a "new" model. "
This new bogey will be counted as one of the twelve models. I think this is a set number for all the models we will see in the show. It is, however, possible that the "Twelve" only refer to the human-form Cylons, seeing as it directly corresponds to the number of colonies as well as to that of the Lords of Kobol. ("Why do they call you Apollo? Apollo was a god..." "It's just my callsign.") If this is indeed the case, then we only know 7 of the 12, instead of 11. The twelve Cylon models representing the 12 Lords of Kobol would certainly make sense in relation to the repeating history bit. "This has all happened before and it will all happen again." It is interesting that all the Cylons who know they are Cylons worship one single god, perhaps because they are the new incarnation, so to speak, of the Lords of Kobol leading their people to a new land. This people would be the new Cylon-human hybrids that will be revealed this season with the coming of Gaius and Six's daughter, as well as Helo and Boomer's child. I am prepared to change my hypothesis to be that there are 12 human-form Cylon models. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Apollo obviously corresponds to the Lord Apollo, and I'm thinking Six represents Aphrodite (just a hunch...). I'll do a little research on who the other 10 Lords of Kobol are and try to match up the known Cylons. This might actually help in predicting the next few Cylon's identities based on their characters (or even nicknames, such as with Apollo).
"Where did the "12 model" printout come from? I always thought Baltar."
We aren't really sure where the prinout came from. Baltar is the "Cylon expert". Maybe it was from him, or maybe it was from some other Cylon source. I don't think that the source is nearly as important as the content.
"In "Scattered" (201), I felt there were hints toward Gaeta being a Cylon. I think this is false, but he may come under suspicion due to his BIG mistake."
I heard a rumor that Gaeta slipped "something" to Boomer before she shot the Commander in the season 1 finale. I think he was just congratulating her like everyone else. The trigger itself would not have come from Gaeta, but rather from the Commander himself. Interesting timing she had, wasn't it? Almost a revenge for killing her fellow Cylons. Or maybe it was just so we'd have suspense going into season 2. Either way, it was dramatic.
"I think most of Lee's actions could still be human reactions. When he boxes with his "dad" that hints at Cylon. That exchange is worth some discussion."
Good point. Commander says, "You have to lose control, follow your instincts." This could be seen many ways, but for now I'd like to see it as an invitation to be who he really is (which could be really dangerous, but Cylons do have more fun...) I thought it was interesting that in this same sequence the audience was fooled into thinking that the *ahem* interaction between Starbuck and Gaius was in fact between Lee and Starbuck. But wait...Apollo is already over here, boxing with Dad...another copy? Oh, no, it's just that other Cylon, Gaius.
As far as this goes...
"The other characters that reminded me of Lance Armstrong.... just a little, were all cylons. It's not the faces exactly.... it's the shape of their heads. I think that the actors playing cylons were all selected in part to have a specific head profile... like if you turn out the lights you would have difficulty telling them apart. Same with Lee. "
Something makes me think that the Cylons would not be limited to one certain head shape. I think the creation and copying process is a bit more sophisticated than a one-size-fits-all mold. Although this Lance Armstrong thing does raise interesting questions...could the creators of Battlestar be indirectly accusing the real Lance Armstrong of being more than a human? Could they indeed be accusing him of being a well-developed android? Has this been the secret to his sucess all along??
This new bogey will be counted as one of the twelve models. I think this is a set number for all the models we will see in the show. It is, however, possible that the "Twelve" only refer to the human-form Cylons, seeing as it directly corresponds to the number of colonies as well as to that of the Lords of Kobol. ("Why do they call you Apollo? Apollo was a god..." "It's just my callsign.") If this is indeed the case, then we only know 7 of the 12, instead of 11. The twelve Cylon models representing the 12 Lords of Kobol would certainly make sense in relation to the repeating history bit. "This has all happened before and it will all happen again." It is interesting that all the Cylons who know they are Cylons worship one single god, perhaps because they are the new incarnation, so to speak, of the Lords of Kobol leading their people to a new land. This people would be the new Cylon-human hybrids that will be revealed this season with the coming of Gaius and Six's daughter, as well as Helo and Boomer's child. I am prepared to change my hypothesis to be that there are 12 human-form Cylon models. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Apollo obviously corresponds to the Lord Apollo, and I'm thinking Six represents Aphrodite (just a hunch...). I'll do a little research on who the other 10 Lords of Kobol are and try to match up the known Cylons. This might actually help in predicting the next few Cylon's identities based on their characters (or even nicknames, such as with Apollo).
"Where did the "12 model" printout come from? I always thought Baltar."
We aren't really sure where the prinout came from. Baltar is the "Cylon expert". Maybe it was from him, or maybe it was from some other Cylon source. I don't think that the source is nearly as important as the content.
"In "Scattered" (201), I felt there were hints toward Gaeta being a Cylon. I think this is false, but he may come under suspicion due to his BIG mistake."
I heard a rumor that Gaeta slipped "something" to Boomer before she shot the Commander in the season 1 finale. I think he was just congratulating her like everyone else. The trigger itself would not have come from Gaeta, but rather from the Commander himself. Interesting timing she had, wasn't it? Almost a revenge for killing her fellow Cylons. Or maybe it was just so we'd have suspense going into season 2. Either way, it was dramatic.
"I think most of Lee's actions could still be human reactions. When he boxes with his "dad" that hints at Cylon. That exchange is worth some discussion."
Good point. Commander says, "You have to lose control, follow your instincts." This could be seen many ways, but for now I'd like to see it as an invitation to be who he really is (which could be really dangerous, but Cylons do have more fun...) I thought it was interesting that in this same sequence the audience was fooled into thinking that the *ahem* interaction between Starbuck and Gaius was in fact between Lee and Starbuck. But wait...Apollo is already over here, boxing with Dad...another copy? Oh, no, it's just that other Cylon, Gaius.
As far as this goes...
"The other characters that reminded me of Lance Armstrong.... just a little, were all cylons. It's not the faces exactly.... it's the shape of their heads. I think that the actors playing cylons were all selected in part to have a specific head profile... like if you turn out the lights you would have difficulty telling them apart. Same with Lee. "
Something makes me think that the Cylons would not be limited to one certain head shape. I think the creation and copying process is a bit more sophisticated than a one-size-fits-all mold. Although this Lance Armstrong thing does raise interesting questions...could the creators of Battlestar be indirectly accusing the real Lance Armstrong of being more than a human? Could they indeed be accusing him of being a well-developed android? Has this been the secret to his sucess all along??
posted by (and Ernie) at 1:54 PM
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Actually I've been assuming that there is only one child. The whole project on Caprica has been to get Helo to fall in love with Boomer-2 and make her pregnant. This creates the human-cylon hybrid.
The child on kobol is not real yet, I think Baltar-Six's vision is showing him Boomer's baby post birth. It seems that Baltar will be convinced that it is really his child. I'm not sure why.... except maybe the cylons want Baltar in the child's corner, defending it when the time comes.
If that's true.... it implies that Boomer-2 and Helo were not meant to make it back to Gallactica.... otherwise the real story gets out. Now that Starbuck knows about the baby, the cylons' plans may be in danger. Which also explains why Six-2 was trying to kill Starbuck. Which also may explain why Boomer-2 stole the ship. The only two humans who know about the baby are now stuck on Caprica. Okay I've only seen the episode once so far.... she stole the ship at the end... right? Who has the arrow now? It's like.... she loves Helo... and when it's born she likely discovers she loves the baby... so my guess is she is stealing the ship to save Helo's life, because she knows he can't be allowed to return to Gallactica.
Well anyway.... I think there's just one baby.
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